Anyone who says this episode was awful is one not a true whovian…
and an idiot…
do you ever have those friends you just REALLY FUCKING appreciate. like god DAMN i really fucking apprecIATE YOU. thank you for fucking existing. thanks for fucking finding me worthy of you. i usually words like frick but you just make me go FUCK. FUck fuck thank you
Listen up Doctor Who Fandom. Yall need to chill out and relax.
First off The 50th was AMAZING especially if you were a FAN.
Everyone who was complaining fits in one of two categories. A David Tennant Fanboy or a MOFFAT KILLS EVERYTHING DUMBASS.
All those who said Moffat killed everything Russel set up are just plain DUMB. This series was not created by Russel. Thus one could say Russel killed everything that the original writers had intended.
Moffat did just what every other writer of a series does, takes it and turns it in the direction they want it to go. If you have an issue with that GO HOME.
This episode was brilliant, all the actors were fantastic, and I think moffat was wonderful.
If you are a true fan you will take what you are given and just enjoy it for what it is.
WHOVIANS WHO DIDN’T LIKE THE 50TH:
To those of you complaining that the End of Time’s ending no longer makes sense, I would like to point out that it, in fact, does. The above picture is a screenshot of the Master’s page in regards to the end of time. You can read the full page here: [x]
First things first, the Master and the Doctor destroyed a link between Earth and the then thought to be time-locked Gallifrey. A LINK. Not all of Gallifrey, as I’ve seen a few posts claiming. This sent them, and potentially the Master as well, “back into hell” of the final day of the Time War.
As far as the council knew, it WAS the final day of the time war. The council, as you might have noticed, was not in this episode. Probably specifically for this reason. They were too busy securing a safe escape for themselves through the White-Point Star. AND I QUOTE FROM THE EPISODE, "The High Council is in emergency session - they have plans of their own." THIS LINE WAS VERY MUCH INTENTIONAL. In fact, the whole story line of the Master and the White-Point Star link could easily have gone down before the planet was stashed away by the doctors. In fact, that story line could run parallel to the Doctor trying to decide whether or not to destroy Gallifrey.
Now there are some saying, “BUT THE GUILT HE FELT WASN’T EVEN REAL.” No, it was real. As was stated in the episode, when they reentered their own time streams, the War Doctor and Ten individually forgot. And even if Eleven were to forget, Clara’s timeline was not changed, and therefore she would easily be able to remember and fill the Doctor in. It’s also why Eleven didn’t remember when he ran into Ten - because to his memory as Ten, it hadn’t happened to him. Getting back to the guilt, when the War Doctor (or 8.5 as some are calling him) woke up as nine, his planet would be gone. The last thing he would have remembered before crossing into the time streams would be trying to decide. His planet and all the Daleks are gone and only he remains, just as the Moment told him would be his fate if he chose to burn Gallifrey. And what can he find of his home? Nothing. So, naturally, he would assume that he chose to do it and that he killed his people, thus triggering the guilt in Russel T. Davies’ storyline.
TLDR: MOFFAT DID NOT IGNORE THE END OF TIME. PLEASE STOP.
Of course he didn’t. Moffat met with RTD to discuss all of these things prior to The Day Of The Doctor, so everything fits together with both showrunners plans they had for New Who. So Moffat would have mentioned he wanted to bring back Gallifrey and the Time Lords to RTD and they worked out a way to do it so everything stayed canon.
Moffat mentioned meeting with RTD at least a good month ago. Some people just didn’t pay attention.
ALL OF THIS. Please stop complaining about it. The Timelords can back and that is GREAT.
The Doctor doesn’t need to be the last of his species to be an interesant character, as I read. That is RIDICULOUS. He was interesant character in 26 seasons of Classic Who, so that argument is just …pointless.
Be the last of the species,that doesn’t make him epic. Just make him a sad men. But we had been watching a sad man for 7 years, 7 YEARS. It’s time he can go home. It’s time we can see Gallifrey again. It’s time we can see new plots and storyarcs wich involve the Timelords.
And all the guilty wasn’t worthless. That guilt defined the characters of 3 Doctors regenerations. But know, Moffat has all the rigths to make them back. And I’m almost sure that bring Gallifrey back is the best present for all of the people who watched Doctor Who since the beggining.
Happy 50th Doctor Who!!!
All of time and all of space, I’m glad you let us be one of your companions.
“So, all of time and space, everything that ever happened or ever will - where do you want to start?” - The Eleventh Hour
The Eleventh Doctor somewhat splits opinions down the middle. There are some who feel that he’s a victim of Moffat’s convoluted writing who generally doesn’t hold a candle to other, better Doctors, and some who believe that Matt Smith masterfully delivers one of the most emotionally complex and multi-layered Doctors out there, making him their definitive version of the character. And there are also some who don’t have extreme opinions, but they’re no fun to write about. In general, the Eleventh Doctor is well received, but there are undoubtedly some episodes in his run that focus on emotion and heart rather than internal logic and reasoning, and it varies among viewers how they take these episodes. Some find them too “power of love”-y, while others are swept into the spirit of things and enjoy the emotional roller-coaster that the writers intended us to go on. Either is valid, and so I’m sure that some of my readers will wonder why I placed Smith so high up, even with all of the weirdly complicated yet still not explained time travel episodes and sappy episodes that rely on emotion.
Well, honestly, it’s because I find all of these emotionally-focused moments to be powerful scenes that feel sincere and in-keeping with the character, even if the scene has multiple faults and plot-holes from a strictly logical perspective. Smith is not afraid to explore the passionate extremes of the Doctor, and, when a character has experienced as much as the Doctor has, that’s quite the emotional range. So yes, I think I would say that Smith draws from the history of the character and presents an intricate portrayal of the Doctor that simultaneously manages to make us laugh, cry and want to hit up the nearest bow-tie shop.
This is why I love the 11th doctor